THE
DRAFT LOCALGOVERNMENT (CIVIL PARTNERSHIP) (AMENDMENT) (
RESULTS
OF CONSULTATION
Respondent |
Pension
Scheme Regs 1997 |
Transiti-onal Provns Regs 1997 |
Discretionary
Payments Regs 1996 |
Early
Termination of Employment Regs 2000 |
Costs |
Pre
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Employers Organisation |
Schedule 4 (para
4(8)) & Schedule 8 (paras 16 & 17) require amendment. New Reg 21(1A) is
superfluous. New Reg 21(6A)
should commence Paras (5) & (6) apply to. |
They oppose such a purchase facility. This
would be a question for the Tripartite Committee to consider in the context of a new look
scheme. |
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GMB |
GMB support the proposals, but argue that they
should be extended to all unmarried partners. |
They strongly endorse extension to cover all
service back to 1972, but on the basis that any additional cost would also be at no
additional cost to the member. At the very least, the additional cost should be split
between the employer and the member on a 2:1 basis. |
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They support the proposals, but want unmarried
partners back to 1972 to be included. |
They consider that 1972 88 service
should be included, with costs to be borne by the LGPS. |
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UNISON |
They welcome the proposals. Allowing
authorities to provide pensions to partners of members who died before the Act comes into
should be considered. |
They consider that all survivors pensions
should be backdated to 1972 at no cost to members. Heterosexual unmarried partners should
be treated in the same way as civil partners. |
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They support provision of additional grant to
meet new costs. |
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They are broadly supportive. |
They are concerned about potential costs. |
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Brighton & Hove Council |
They support the proposals. |
They point out that the LGPS Regulations 1997
gave employing authorities the discretion to automatically provide widowers pensions
for pre-1988 service. They consider the current proposals should make similar provision. |
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They consider that provision should be made for
employers to pass a resolution covering 1972 1988, thereby treating it as post-1988
service. |
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They support a facility in the LGPS for active
members to purchase membership between |
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Derbyshire County Council |
They support the proposals. |
They support a facility in the LGPS for active
members to purchase membership between |
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They support the proposals. |
They support a facility for members to count
pre-1988 membership provided that the full cost
is met by the member. |
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Hampshire County Council |
They consider that any further back-dating must
be solely at the scheme members cost. |
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They support the Employers
Organisations position. |
They consider that if take up exceeds
expectations and impacts on LGPS funds, the Government should meet such costs. |
They support further amendment to allow the
buying in of 1972 88 membership on a full cost basis to provide survivor benefits
for civil partners. |
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They support the proposals. |
They consider the cost should be small and therefore can be met
by the Fund. |
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County Council |
They support the proposals. |
They support a facility for active members to
count 1972 1988 membership for purposes of calculating a civil partners
benefit, providing that the full cost is met by the member. |
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Merseyside Pension Fund |
They support the proposals but with provisos
see right. |
Protect-ions provided to widowers must be
extended to civil partners. |
They consider that a facility to count pre-1988
membership must be available on the same basis as that provided to female employees when
widowers pensions were introduced. |
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They support a facility for members to count
pre-1988 membership provided the full cost
is met by the member. |
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Tyne & Wear Pension Fund |
They consider that the current proposals do not
properly achieve parity between married couples widowers pensions and civil
partners as regards pre-1988 membership. |
They consider that under the draft Regulation
2, payment to partners is subject to suspension on forming a new partnership but it
could be difficult for employers to ascertain this. They think that there should be a new
clause to allow them to decide if they want to have a suspension facility. |
They consider that Regulation 21 (7), on
waiving suspension for new partnerships,
should be amended to include civil partner cases. Regulation 5(7) of the draft regulations refers
to heading of Regulation 22, but with the wrong title. |
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They have no objection to allowing scheme
members to count 1972 1988 membership, providing they meet full cost themselves. |
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Staffordshire County Council |
Regarding Schedule 8, paragraphs 16 and 17,
they suggest inserting "or civil partners" after surviving
spouses. |
They consider the amend-ments look
correct. |
They consider the amendments look correct. |
In Regulation 21(3)(a)
Her & she should be replaced by his &
he. Regulation 5 (7) of the draft regulations
refers to the heading of Regulation 22, but with the wrong title. In Schedule 1, they question if the definition
of "eligible child" needs changing. |
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They consider that members should be able to
back-date membership to 1972, meeting the costs themselves. |
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Tameside MBC/ Greater |
They consider the proposals
seem to place civil partners in a better position than widowers as regards whether the
civil partnership was entered into before or after the member ceases employment. |
They consider that the introduction of
mechanisms for counting pre-1988 membership should be delayed until April 2006. |
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They support the proposals. They support the
elimination of any form of disparity between the LGPS and other public sector schemes. |
They are concerned about potential costs and
consider these should be taken into account in the current review of funding provisions. |
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Warwickshire County Council |
They are concerned about the backdating of entitlement to 1988 due to the
cost to the employers revenue accounts. |
They consider costs to the pension fund should be negligible and
subsumed by the pension fund on an ongoing basis. |
They are concerned that by restricting relevant
service from |
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They consider that only post-1988 membership
should count towards a civil partners benefit. But if it were decided to provide for
active members to count 1972 1988 membership, this should be treated in the same
way as widowers provisions. |
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They consider that in 42(4)(b),
reference is made to Regulation 143 but this Regulation has already been deleted. In regulation 44(1)(b)
the meaning of eligible child should be made more precise. They support extension to unmarried opposite
sex partners. |
They support having a facility in the LGPS for
active members to purchase membership between |
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Wiltshire County Council |
They support the proposals |
They consider that the cost should be spread
over an appropriate recovery period and addressed as part of the triennial valuation
exercise. |
They suggest that perhaps there should be an
opportunity for employers to allow pre-1988 membership to count at no cost to the member
in a similar way as in the 1997 Regulations. But there would be a potential problem if an
employer who had exercised the discretion in respect of widowers benefits decided
not to do so for civil partners. |
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Brief
Analysis
Total replies :27
13 of these mentioned their support for the
broad thrust of the proposals, none of the respondents opposed
them.